Geneva, Switzerland Report of what it's like to live there - 09/04/12

Personal Experiences from Geneva, Switzerland

Geneva, Switzerland 09/04/12

School Name:

College du Leman

Background Information:

1. Are you the parent of a child(ren) attending this school? A teacher at the school? Or both?

Parent

View All Answers


2. What grade or grades do/did your children attend at the school? During what year(s) did they attend the school?

8-9 and 10-11

View All Answers


3. During what years were you affiliated with this school?

2011-2012 (a bit over a year now)

View All Answers


4. What was your reason for living in the city where the school is located (e.g., government, military, corporate, NGO, retired)?

Government

View All Answers


Admissions & Welcome:

1. Are the admissions and placement procedures clearly stated to prospective families, either on the school website or through other means of communication?

It seems okay, but I'm not really sure.

View All Answers


2. How would you rate the school's support and welcome/integration of new students and their families, and why?

D Almost nothing. One "welcome" meeting at the start of the year that feels canned and impersonal.

View All Answers


Administration & School Procedures:

1. Describe the general climate of the grade level that you teach or your child attends:

It's cold, strict, and unfriendly. Very unwelcoming and detached.

View All Answers


2. For the following attributes, down to the next blank box, grade your experience at the school on a scale of A (excellent) to F (unacceptable/terrible) and provide comments:<br><br>Overall fair and equitable treatment of all students and families:

A as far as I can tell.

View All Answers


3. How is the overall communication between teachers and parents, and the administration and parents? How is communication facilitated?

F: I cannot stress strongly enough how awful this aspect of the school is. It has happened with us on several occasions that it is almost unbelievable that a teacher did not write to tell us something in advance and then, when asked, said "Oh, I assumed you knew." This came up when my son was adjusting poorly at the start of our time at the school and he got a D and an F but I didn't know there was any problem at all till I got the report card. Then of course it was too late. And courses are cumulative throughout the year, so he had to learn all of that material or it came back to bite him again at the end of the year (and it did), like teh abd gift that just keeps giving. A simple two line email would have alerted me to the need for parental involvement or a tutor being hired. I could have helped. But not if I didn't know about it. Which I did not. So I could not. Now the college applications go out with a bad grade that totally could have been avoided. When I asked the teacher how I could help him in future, at that meeting it became clear the teacher did not know that my son was a new student to the school and she was so out of touch with the range of curricula at the different international schools, that she could not believe that a course CDL required in 9th grade was not required by all schools worldwide. She didn't even know that my son could not possibly have done well in her course because it was a "part II" course for which he'd never received the "part I". Awful.

View All Answers


4. Services for gifted students who need academic challenge and students with learning difficulties:

I don't know.

View All Answers


5. Availability and variety of after-school activities for various ages:

F: the worst! they tell you to join the clubs in your canton (like a "state" in America), but those are in French and cost money and paretns have to get their kids to and from them, so impossible for working parents. They have a few sports at school, but really just a very, very few, and they only compete locally, not at all like most international schools with travelling teams. They advertised golf, but when my son wanted to sign up, they said it was only being offered to boarding students, not day students (like him). He tried to sign up for archery, and they cancelled it because the teacher who was going to run it said he was going to offer a different activity for the boarding kids instead. My kids gave up quickly, as did we. They build up your hopes, only to let you down time and time again. They advertise things, even on their websites, that never happen. Total false advertising.

View All Answers


6. Maintenance of appropriately high standards for all students:

C: Very unevent. Sometimes yes, sometimes absolutely not.

View All Answers


7. Homework assigned (quality, quantity):

B: Levels are fine but uneven from grade to grade.

View All Answers


8. Administration-parent communication:

D: None. Zero. Unless you count the rare newsletters. Becuase of the newsletter, I give them a D. Otherwise, it would be an F.

View All Answers


9. Teacher-student communication:

D: If the student is motivated, he or she can reach a teacher. Teachers do not make any effort at all, even when there are clear problems with understanding.

View All Answers


10. Academics, answer the following questions "yes" or "no" with an explanation if appropriate:<br><br>Are there any classes or subjects where students are not appropriately challenged?

Yes. Computer class was silly. Art is uninspired. No theater class, so any student who wants a challenge int aht area will not get one. But otherwise it's okay, I think.

View All Answers


11. Does your child receive any special-needs assistance or instruction at this school? If yes, what types? Who provides services and where:

No.

View All Answers


12. Do you believe the special-needs assistance is appropriate and fills your needs? Explain:

I think it is not, from what other parents say. But I do not have personal experience.

View All Answers


13. Does the gifted and talented program meet the needs of students? Please explain:

N/A

View All Answers


14. Does the school offer a wide variety of elective or non-core classes such as art, music, and drama?

Absolutely not. There is almost nothing. Their web site is misleading. For instance, the web site says they offer golf, so my son tried to sign up only to be told that it's only being offered for boarding students. He had been so excited to learn they had golf that he'd bought himself golf clubs in advance of school out of his own savings. He was deeply disappointed, as were we. He signed up for archery, but it never met. He was told the teacher who was going to teach archery decided to offer a different activity to boarding students instead. No middle school theater, and my daughter loved being in plays in her other schools. I could go on. But you get the idea. No sports are competed at other international schools. They compete locally with some schools in Switzerland. If you don't speak French or German, you'll feel left out. My daughter wanted to sign up for Cross Country and was told to join the runnning club in her town (whcih operates entirely in French). She doesn't speak French. She gave up.

View All Answers


15. Please describe any classes or programs that you believe are missing:

Sports, after school activities, languages at all levels for the different grades. The school told my daughter shoudl could take Italian, German or Spanish. She signed up for Italian. They put her in intermediate Italian, but she doesn't speak any Italian. They never bothered to ask her. She dropped it and gave up. They told my son he could take German and French (French is required for all grade levels) so he signed up for German. He was put in Intermediate German also, though he spoke no German. Same problem. So he dropped it and took only French. So when they say "all kids can take two languages" what they really mean is "all kids can take French, and maybe one other language if the level your child is suits what we're offering at that moment." Another case of false advertising.

View All Answers


16. Are there academic requirements such as trips or other activities that cost money in addition to school fees?

Yes! They charge outrageous amounts for everythign! Even by Swiss standards. The PE uniform cost us $180 per child! Lunch, we did the math, costs $19.00 per DAY, and is not that good. I pay half of that at work for a lunch that's very nice and provided by a private contractor, just like they have at their school, so this is absolutely not necessary. it's a for profit school and you will never forget that it is. Most schools provide books. Not this school. You have to buy them all. Since I am with the US Government, I get that cost reimbursed, but if you don't get it reimbursed, it's incredibly expensive and absolutely unheard of to not just have class sets and loan them to kids for the year, take them back, then loan them to the next year's kids, charging only if a kid loses a book.

View All Answers


17. What activities do you feel are missing?

All of them. Every single one is missing.

View All Answers


18. Have your children participated in the activities offered? If no, please indicate why:

Nope. There are almost none. And those they thought they'd like to take were all cancelled even though they had been offered.

View All Answers


19. Does the school provide appropriate assistance to new students?

None. No. It's unwelcoming. Just show up, go to class, sit down, and learn. No welcoming atmosphere. No introductions. Nothing.

View All Answers


20. Please describe any problem areas or challenges in social interaction at the school:

There is no social interaction at the school. That's the problem.

View All Answers


Academics & Resources:

1. What personal or academic counseling resources are available at this school? Is there a dedicated college counselor at the school? Is he/she familiar with universities worldwide?

F on Family support. C on college applications (better if you plan to go to the UK, worse if you plan to go to college in North America). D on career advising (they did one small activity that both of my kids said was "lame" and they already knew "all of that".

View All Answers


2. Does the school have a library? How large is it? How updated are the books? Can students borrow books to read at home?

C: Average library. Almost no one uses it. Eery time I've walked into it or by it, it's all but utterly empty.

View All Answers


3. How are information technology resources at the school. Are they up-to-date? Is there a computer lab?

C This year they are trying out i-Pads for some grades. If it works, they will use them in more grades, I think. Not sure. Other than that, tech is almost non-existent. There is a computer class for 9th and 10th grades, but the teacher screams all the time and is extremely unpleasant. I'm also told the kids ask her questions all the time that she simply can't answer and never bothers to find the answer to. Also, computer classes are now out of fashion in schools. Most good schools do not offer a class in computers but, rather, give tech support as needed in classrooms in other subjects. This school is way behind the times on that.

View All Answers


4. Describe the physical education resources at the school. Is there a gym? A swimming pool? Are there playing fields or tennis courts available?

C-: Both of my children say it's incredibly boring and uninspired.

View All Answers


5. What is the approximate teacher-to-student ratio in the grades that your child attended?

A: about 18 kids in a class at most. good size.

View All Answers


6. Are Advanced Placement (AP) or International Baccalaureate (IB) courses available in upper grades? If this is an IB school, is the full diploma required of all students?

Both are offered at the 11th and 12th grade levels. Below that, there is no IB.

View All Answers


7. Is the amount and type of homework generally appropriate for the age and grade of the students?

It's fine.

View All Answers


8. What fine arts electives are available (music, drama, visual arts)?

C-: There is art, but not all year. There is music if you want to pay for lessons, or a very thin program at school. No theater productions in middle school.

View All Answers


9. Are the teachers at the school required to speak English as a first language--or at least fluently?

Yes, sort of. Not all do. Most do. I got one email from a core subject teacher that was written like a 8th grade non-native speaker struggling with English. It was shocking actually. Most are okay though. Though it should be noted that most teachers are not native speakers.

View All Answers


10. What services are available for gifted/advanced students at the school? Please describe your experience with these services, if applicable.

No.

View All Answers


11. What extra-curricular activities (including sports) are available at this school? Have your children participated in these activities? What activities do you feel are missing at the school?

No. Absolutely not.

View All Answers


Social & Emotional Well-Being:

1. Do expatriate students socialize with local students at the school? Are both groups successfully integrated into the school culture?

Not mine. Everyone lives far from school in the countryside. The school offers nothing. So if your child has a few friends, that's about all they'll see on weekends.

View All Answers


2. Are there are any problems with exclusionary behavior, cliques, or bullying at this school? Please describe any problems your children may have experienced in this area.

I don't think so. The worst of it is that they experience utter indifference.

View All Answers


Overall Impressions:

1. What is the greatest strength of this school?

Honestly, I can't think of one worth mentioning.

View All Answers


2. Greatest challenge?

Everything.

View All Answers


3. Would you choose this school again? Why?

We are so unhappy with this school, and have been told in no uncertain terms by many, many parents that the other schools in the area we might choose if we wanted to switch, all have their own equal but different problems (and some problems that are just the same), so it's not worth trading the devil you know, as they say. So we have decided to curtail out of Switzerland. Such a gorgeous, gorgeous country, in a fantastic location, and the Swiss and French people have been great, and we love our jobs here, but it's a horrible school situation. So though we've never curtailed from anywhere before, we will curtail from Geneva for one reason only: the schools are awful. CDL, which is the only one I can say from personal experience, is far and away the worst school my children have ever attended, and this is our 6th expat experience. I am not normally a complainer. We've enjoyed the other places we've lived and schools my kids have gone to. I have been a teacher at some of those schools, in fact. Really, this is the only place I would say this about. Do not come to Switzerland for the great schools. In fact, better to bid on this post after your kids go to college or if you have none.

View All Answers


Subscribe to our newsletter


New book from Talesmag! Honest and courageous stories of life abroad with special needs.

Read More